tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413493203849579481.post7041259839352911625..comments2023-10-23T18:27:06.378+01:00Comments on PoliticalBetting - Channel 2: The Welsh Poll - the aftermath?Mike Smithsonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11961547389548912471noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413493203849579481.post-66009649936454283702009-10-29T08:06:17.512+00:002009-10-29T08:06:17.512+00:00@Meurig
I've had some very delicate discussion...@Meurig<br />I've had some very delicate discussions with my welsh relatives where I've tried to put forward the notion of an English-Welsh identity. No converts so far :)<br /><br />PS - Super article, thanks.Dave Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413493203849579481.post-83133593590625091412009-10-28T12:22:39.360+00:002009-10-28T12:22:39.360+00:00Balsom's work divided Wales into 3 on grounds ...Balsom's work divided Wales into 3 on grounds of dominant self-perception of national identity.<br />1. Fro Gymraeg, where perceptions of identity are closely (though complexly) linked to language - Anglesey, Gwynedd, inland north-east wales, Ceredigion, Carmarthenshire, and some fringes of Pembs, Powys and West Glamorgan.<br />2. Welsh Wales. People are overwhelmingly Welsh-identifying but not Welsh-speaking. Basically the valleys, plus possibly Swansea.<br />3. British Wales, where most people would say that they have an equal British and Welsh identity or predominantly a British one. The southern coastal strip, borderlands, and populous coastal areas of the north, plus Pembrokeshire.<br /><br />Demographic change, and changes in identities post-devolution, make these terms more problematic (though Balsom never claimed that they were strictly delineated) but they're still an useful tool.<br /><br />MeurigAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413493203849579481.post-22003899248354271522009-10-28T10:18:07.001+00:002009-10-28T10:18:07.001+00:00Meurig, thanks for an excellent piece. Uniform na...Meurig, thanks for an excellent piece. Uniform national swing is a very blunt instrument in a four way election and I could easily imagine Labour doing much better or much worse on exactly these percentages, depending on how exactly their votes fell. <br /><br />Yougov have been about the most favourable pollster to Labour on the UK scene recently. It is distinctly possible, therefore, that this represents the best case for Labour at present.<br /><br />antifrankAlastairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11551605492626333385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413493203849579481.post-35984330148143324202009-10-28T10:07:00.024+00:002009-10-28T10:07:00.024+00:00Interesting. Can I ask, what are the three psephol...Interesting. Can I ask, what are the three psephological zones of Wales that you talk about in your post? I would imagine they break down as 1. the (post-)industrial south (the Valleys), 2. the more prosperous (dare I say Anglicised?) hinterlands along the border with England (but also including West Wales?) and 3. the more Welsh-speaking North-west Wales. <br />But more details from someone who seems to be in the know would be interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com