What’s missing, of course, is information; the sort of information that comes with polling. While there have been solid studies of questions such as attitudes to devolution, reliable voting-intention polling just doesn’t happen. Wales-only polls appear only sporadically, generally at Assembly election time, sometimes undertaken by NOP for ITV Wales. Back in ’99, the few opinion polls that were carried out had Labour cruising to an overall majority, and their record has scarcely improved since. Neither has their frequency. The BBC aren’t allowed to do polls which include intention to vote questions, ITV Wales hardly do any political coverage any more, and the Trinity Mirror-dominated Welsh press don’t seem to want to help either. We do have Beaufort Research, which can add a political question to its regular ‘caravan’ surveys of Welsh opinion (sometimes at Plaid’s commission), but all this is a far cry from a robust polling methodology. Extrapolating trends from tiny regional sub-samples or council by-election results is even more of a mug’s game.
Things might be about to change. YouGov have established a Welsh panel, and will unveil the first findings on Tuesday morning. The numbers have been crunched by Richard Wyn Jones and Aberystwyth psephologist Roger Scully, and Peter Kellner will be on hand at the launch to discuss methodology. All very interesting. I hope to get the results pretty quickly, and I’ll update this thread if and when. Apparently, they’ll also be unveiling results on attitudes to the Assembly having full legislative powers, and the Labour leadership contest (for which current betting odds are here).
I suppose we shouldn’t get our hopes up too much. It takes time to work on the methodology, and
But for what it’s worth, this year’s marginals poll indicated Conservative gains in Aberconwy, Bridgend, Cardiff North, Carmarthen West & South Pembrokeshire, Gower, Newport West, Vale of Clwyd and Vale of Glamorgan. Plaid was projected to gain Ynys Môn, Ceredigion, and the new seat of Arfon, which is notionally Labour but where Plaid have a sitting MP.
Some quite interesting seats weren’t polled – including both the main Lib Dem targets of Swansea West and Newport East. In addition, the European election results (which in
So there may be some betting value out there in the under-researched Welsh constituencies, and if readers wish I’ll put up a couple more articles on the prospects in the marginals over the next few weeks.
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Thanks,meurig for a brilliant piece.It was most illuminating and I look forward to Tuesday's update.
URW.
Thanks for the kind words.
When I posted it it had paragraph breaks!
I cut & pasted it in a hurry and exposed my html ineptitude.
Thankyou , Meurig , for an interesting article , also I am looking forward to Tuesdays update .
Good stuff!
Thanks for the insight,Wales is very interesting indeed , it looks very much like the Labour stranglehold is no more. The Wales poll will be revealing and fascinating
Maggie Thatcher Fan
Meurig thanks for an excellent article. I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the poll when it is released.
Meurig - thanks for your most interesting piece and to URW for highlighting it. Probably like 90% of the PB audience, I know next to nothing about politics in Wales and to Tories like myself, it has seemed like a wasteland ever since Adam was a lad, which made your post all the more informative.
Here's an interesting tid-bit to keep people going. A welsh-language blogger who is part of the YouGov panel has said that he was polled by the company before the Euro elections, but that was never published.
So, one presumes, YouGov have done a calibration exercise in advance of this poll.
Thank you for your kind comments.
Meurig
Interesting -- would you care to divulge the (unnamed) Labour seat with heavy phone canvassing?
An interesting seat seems to me to be Gwyr -- one of the 3 longest held Labour seats in the UK (the other two are Makerfield and Normanton). But it looks very likely to fall to the Tories.
As it was Liberal before 1905, this will be the first time the Tories have ever held it.
Cardiff West.
Of course, it could be just research to test how they're doing and whether they need to defend it.
Meurig
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